The Smell Test

Until recently it would have been unthinkable for a negative perfume comment to appear in traditional press. Which is why Women’s Wear Daily’s perfume ranking feature is as important as it is daring. WWD is one of the major beauty and fashion publication, and I hope that this decision signifies bigger changes to come. 10 judges, along with panel chairman Michael Edwards, smell perfumes blindly, rank them and offer their commentary. The jury includes perfumers, industry analysts, scientists, journalists, and above all, passionate fragrance lovers: Jean-Claude Delville (Drom), Karen Dubin (Sniffapalooza), Christophe Laudamiel (DreamAir), Luca Turin, Kevin Verspoor (PerfumeKev LLC), Paul Austin (Austin Advisory group), Chantal Roos (Roos & Roos co), Nathalie Pichard (toPNotes), and myself.

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How the perfumes are assessed: “Panelists are given unmarked vials of fragrance to smell in a blind, impartial test. The fragrance will be scored on a scale of 10 (the ultimate) to 1 (forgettable), with an average score computed. The judges will make short critiques of each fragrance, which will be kept anonymous to ensure independent thinking. Scents being judged are new to the market and among the most promising. WWD will buy them at retail, like any consumer.”

The first edition of The Smell Test reviews Misia from Les Exclusifs de Chanel. You can read the comments at the WWD site. It remains to be seen how the initiative will develop, but I look forward to the subsequent editions, and of course, to your thoughts and commentary.

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  • Michaela: It’s a marvelous idea and I hope it’s going to work fine. At last, fragrance experts join efforts to appreciate juice quality and make their voices heard. Big days to come, hopefully. Probably not tomorrow, but soon, I hope. I’m happy you are one of them. May 13, 2015 at 7:49am Reply

    • Cornelia Blimber: Same here, happy that you are one of them.
      A great idea! May 13, 2015 at 8:28am Reply

    • Solanace: Happy to know you were part of the panel, too. May 13, 2015 at 11:16am Reply

    • Victoria: The more perfume is discussed in an open, free manner, the better! May 13, 2015 at 2:26pm Reply

  • Sandra: Fragrance is such a personal choice and so subjective Do you think that a panel like this would be beneficial? And to whom? Regardless, I am glad you are one of those people. Have fun! May 13, 2015 at 8:51am Reply

    • Victoria: Fragrance likes, just like preferences for just about anything in the world, are subjective, but it doesn’t mean that you can’t discuss perfumes in objectively in terms of their artistic elements, technical aspects, etc. After all, art works, food, movies can be ranked, even though everyone has different likes.

      As for a panel being beneficial, we will see. Ideally, candid discussions of fragrances, including negative comments, add to the wider discourse on perfume. How it all plays out remains to be seen. May 13, 2015 at 2:30pm Reply

  • The Scented Salon: Sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between a “good” perfume and something that you personally like. For example, I don’t typically like violet but Misia is a beautiful perfume because of its composition, blending and nuances. Would I wear it? That is not important. Is it a good perfume? Most definitely. May 13, 2015 at 9:16am Reply

    • OperaFan: I haven’t tried Misia (though am eager for the opportunity), but I do agree that the right review, be it an individual or panel, can help identify perfumes of quality regardless of personal preference.
      From this perspective (unlike my comment a bit further down), I am very glad to see WWD has created this initiative and look forward to reading the series. May 13, 2015 at 9:44am Reply

    • Victoria: The main part of perfumery training is to learn how to distinguish “good”/”bad” from “I like”/”I don’t like.” That being said, there are so many people on the blogs who manage this delicate balance exceptionally well, even without professional training. May 13, 2015 at 2:32pm Reply

  • key change: Adding my voice to those who are glad that you’re one of the panelists! And I’m also excited to see how much objectivity this might infuse into the process, especially because the panelists seem to be so varied (a good thing) May 13, 2015 at 9:21am Reply

    • Victoria: I’m also glad to see how varied the panel is. I didn’t know who the rest of the people would be until this issue ran. May 13, 2015 at 2:32pm Reply

  • OperaFan: Like Sandra above, I am a bit skeptical about the objectivity of judging panels no matter how esteemed the members – yet, I am an avid reader of blogs like BdJ (!) and largely dependent on reviews to help me choose, even just to sample among the thousands of options on the market, new and old.
    I try, though not always succesfully, to take most reviews with a grain of salt and use them as a guideline, and reserve final judgement for myself in the end.
    That said, I am Very glad to see you on the panel and am off to read their comments….
    🙂 May 13, 2015 at 9:29am Reply

    • Victoria: The reviews are completely blind, and reviewers’ comments are published without revealing their identity. So, the objectivity part shouldn’t be an issue. May 13, 2015 at 11:55am Reply

      • OperaFan: Not sure if you could tell, but I wrote my comment before reading the WWD post.

        I just read it, and very much like the way they summarized the results by getting straight to the point. It’s not at all what I’d imagined. May 13, 2015 at 1:23pm Reply

        • Victoria: I myself wasn’t sure how it might look, but I like the outcome. May 13, 2015 at 2:47pm Reply

  • Aurora: Congratulations on your appointment, and this promises to be a refreshing perspective on perfume as the usual reviews tend to be completely interchangeable. May 13, 2015 at 9:39am Reply

    • Aurora: I meant in the press, of course, your blog is my reference book. May 13, 2015 at 9:43am Reply

    • Victoria: Just another way to discuss perfume without worrying about advertisers. Hope that WWD will continue it, although I imagine some perfume brands not very happy. May 13, 2015 at 2:33pm Reply

  • Austenfan: Brilliant idea, and I hope it will also be lots of fun for you! May 13, 2015 at 10:05am Reply

    • Victoria: It’s so instructive to smell blindly! May 13, 2015 at 2:34pm Reply

      • Austenfan: I’m sure it is.
        Also it must be nice to be able to discuss fragrances on their merits alone. May 13, 2015 at 3:57pm Reply

  • Rebecca: How interesting. I received a decant yesterday. I find it lovely and vintage smelling but perhaps not striking. May 13, 2015 at 10:06am Reply

    • Victoria: I like it very much, although I also am waiting to see if it’s going to be real love. May 13, 2015 at 2:34pm Reply

      • spe: Same with me. It is very close to lipstick rose without the l.s. “spark.” May 14, 2015 at 11:00am Reply

        • Victoria: And without its sensuality. May 15, 2015 at 2:05am Reply

  • Phyllis Iervello: Congratulations Victoria…I am also happy to see your are on this panel (which I think is a good move by WWD). Although I read perfume reviews all the time, if I really like something, it is of no matter to me if someone else dislikes it. I happen to love Misia, and it does seem to be getting some love from perfume critics. However, another Chanel (among many that I love) has gotten panned by most critics–Chanel No. 19 Poudre. I find that to be a very comforting scent and one I go to many times (as I do with Hermes H’iris) when I cannot decide what to spritz. May 13, 2015 at 10:30am Reply

    • Victoria: I love No 19 Poudre, and I think that it got panned because it doesn’t smell like No 19. As if we need another No 19! May 13, 2015 at 2:35pm Reply

      • rainboweyes: Oh well, I don’t know if that was the reason…
        I didn’t expect it to smell like No. 19 but the overwhelming load of white musks which this intitially beautiful scent turns into after 20 minutes is simply disappointing… May 13, 2015 at 4:13pm Reply

        • Victoria: Yes, I think you have to enjoy musks and powdery notes in general to like Poudre. May 13, 2015 at 4:26pm Reply

  • leathermountain: I enjoyed those evaluations!

    Victoria, why do you think this was done differently? And what do you think would motivate the bigger changes to come that you mention? May 13, 2015 at 10:32am Reply

    • Victoria: It’s not that it’s done differently. Something like this was simply not done before in the traditional press. Since WWD is a reputable source and is read by the industry, the feature is very important. May 13, 2015 at 2:37pm Reply

  • limegreen: I will chime in with everyone and say so glad you are one of the panelists, Victoria.
    And it would be great if this signals a trend to focus more on the juice and not marketing.
    What happens when a panelist recognizes the perfume anyway, as I’m sure you did? May 13, 2015 at 10:34am Reply

    • JoDee: I wondered the same thing! May 13, 2015 at 12:34pm Reply

    • limegreen: p.s. Love the sketches of the judges! May 13, 2015 at 1:27pm Reply

      • Victoria: We look like aliens! May 13, 2015 at 2:47pm Reply

        • limegreen: 🙂 No comment (Laughing really hard) May 13, 2015 at 5:06pm Reply

        • limegreen: Okay, one comment: More like “anime” characters with all the huge expressive eyes. 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 5:16pm Reply

          • Victoria: 🙂 A fanciful use of Photoshop, I’d say. May 13, 2015 at 11:46pm Reply

    • Victoria: Thank you and everyone else! It’s fun to be a part of it. I’m enjoying smelling perfumes blindly and not worrying about brands and back stories. It’s just about the scent.

      And I admit that I didn’t recognize Misia, because I still don’t know it that well, and I can’t really remember all of the new launches. May 13, 2015 at 2:38pm Reply

  • spe: Brilliant! How often are these assessments going to happen? May 13, 2015 at 10:36am Reply

    • Victoria: Weekly or bi-weekly, I believe. I need to double check. May 13, 2015 at 2:39pm Reply

  • Cyndi: So happy to hear you are one of the panelists!
    I have a bottle of Misia, and I love it. It’s different from a lot of the fragrances available now, and I’ve received many compliments. Always a good sign. May 13, 2015 at 10:46am Reply

    • Victoria: Its sillage is one of its best features. 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 2:39pm Reply

  • Solanace: So, let me ask: did you meet Luca Turin? May 13, 2015 at 11:18am Reply

    • Victoria: Yes, a few times. He’s a witty, smart and interesting character. May 13, 2015 at 2:39pm Reply

      • solanace: Imagining the two of you together, it’s like a perfumista version of the Rock & Roll Circus! May 14, 2015 at 7:43am Reply

  • Elisa: I love this idea, especially the blind sniffing part! May 13, 2015 at 11:29am Reply

    • Victoria: That idea was very good. It really forces you to focus on scent and nothing else. We don’t find out what we smelled until the magazine comes out. May 13, 2015 at 2:40pm Reply

  • Danaki: Blind sniffing, great idea. Honest reviews, even better. I guess it goes to show that WWD are recognizing the value of honest reviews that we get from blogs but so rarely from print media. I hope in the future other magazines adopt a similar type of coverage.

    Well done on being part the panel. May 13, 2015 at 12:14pm Reply

    • Victoria: I would love to see it in other magazine too. Or maybe, even the NYT. May 13, 2015 at 2:41pm Reply

  • Cornelia Blimber: Complete obiectivity, like complete perfection, is hard to achieve. But it is worth trying. I think this panel and blind sniffing is a good idea.
    But come what come may, I only trust my own nose!

    Limegreens comment is interesting: what if you recognize the perfume? May 13, 2015 at 12:42pm Reply

    • Victoria: Of course! Trusting your nose is very important, because it’s you and not some critic out there who’s going to wear the said perfume.

      Not sure what happens if one recognizes a perfume. Mostly, we smell such brand new launches that it’s not likely we’ve been exposed to them that much. May 13, 2015 at 2:43pm Reply

  • Karen: Congrats on being part of the panel! Fun idea, but at this point hasn’t everyone in the profession smelled Misia? And if so – since it really got lots of press (and lots of love), how blind of a test is it?

    Anything that focuses on fragrance is a positive thing, so hats off to WWD for doing this! Am curious to read the reviews.

    (and while I loved Misia, it causes a rash on me so had to cross it off my list) May 13, 2015 at 12:42pm Reply

    • Victoria: I’m posting the article a bit late, and it’s been a while since we’ve assessed the sample. I didn’t recognize Misia. May 13, 2015 at 2:45pm Reply

  • Celeste Church: This is exciting! I love this idea! And you’re on a panel with Luca Turin! Wow. Just wow. May 13, 2015 at 1:02pm Reply

    • Victoria: It’s a great group overall. May 13, 2015 at 2:46pm Reply

    • Karen: Ummm, I’d say wow that Luca Turin is on a panel with Victoria! (only because I value her thoughts a little more!) May 13, 2015 at 3:18pm Reply

      • kayliz: Seconding that 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 10:05pm Reply

        • Cornelia Blimber: So do I! Thirting that. May 14, 2015 at 2:53am Reply

  • Johanob: I love the idea.Great panelists as well!You’re in great company with Luca Turin and Chantal Roos!Of course I’m now going to try and figure out which comment was yours Victoria!Lol!x May 13, 2015 at 1:14pm Reply

  • Natalie: I could probably recognize a lot of established fragrances blind. I have complemented fragrances on others mentioning them by name and they are always surprised I know what it is. But if the fragrances being judged are new ones, it does seem like a great impartial way to get fragrance reviews. May 13, 2015 at 1:43pm Reply

    • Victoria: Yes, the perfumes are the brand new launches, at least so far. May 13, 2015 at 2:48pm Reply

  • Hamamelis: IMHO Luca Turin sits on the panel with you rather than you with him…and he should be so lucky!
    This seems such a good development for a different future for fragrance. And….if ever you need a broad perfumista base to consult with I am sure we are all totally keen to do so. May 13, 2015 at 2:10pm Reply

    • Victoria: You all are the best expert group around! 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 2:48pm Reply

    • Karen: Too cute, I just said the same thing as a comment above! Once again, we are on the same page! May 13, 2015 at 3:19pm Reply

      • Hamamelis: 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 3:28pm Reply

  • Magnifiscent: How nice this sounds!
    About Misia I totally agree. Technically well executed with pleasant quality, elegantly retro but, well, quite boring. May 13, 2015 at 3:39pm Reply

    • Victoria: I’m still liking Lipstick Rose more in the same genre. May 13, 2015 at 4:26pm Reply

      • Cornelia Blimber: how is Lipstick Rose compared to Paris edp? May 13, 2015 at 5:11pm Reply

        • Victoria: Totally different, even though both contain rose and violet. Lipstick Rose is much darker, more natural rose-like and has a thicker powdery base. May 13, 2015 at 11:43pm Reply

          • Karen: Recently bought a 10ml bottle of Lipstick Rose and can’t convey how much I am loving it! It is beautiful on, good longevity, dries down to a gorgeous violet/rose. Had thought the 10ml bottle would last for a while, but……Looking like a 50 ml may be necessary. May 14, 2015 at 7:14am Reply

            • Victoria: 10ml wouldn’t be enough for me either. I find it addictive, so I go through periods when I wear nothing else. May 15, 2015 at 2:03am Reply

              • Karen: I am going between that and Carnal Flower – with an occasional something else. But yesterday evening wore La Fille and it felt like coming home. May 15, 2015 at 5:55am Reply

                • Victoria: There is nothing like an old favorite! May 15, 2015 at 10:19am Reply

  • Patricia: What a great exercise! I’m so glad that you’re part of the panel. 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 5:24pm Reply

    • Victoria: I’m enjoying it. 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 11:52pm Reply

  • Bela: A British magazine organised something similar about 35 years ago. The judges were presented with several well-known fragrances in the same kind of conditions. The one that came top was Old Spice – judged to be extremely sophisticated and probably very expensive. LOL!

    A little bird told me that Luca T was very taken with you the first time you met. 🙂 May 13, 2015 at 8:44pm Reply

    • Victoria: I was trying to remember the other day which magazine it was. Your Old Spice story is terrific. I bet that if people knew they were smelling Chanel, they would have been more complimentary. May 13, 2015 at 11:56pm Reply

      • Bela: I may well still have the article. I’ll have a rummage… May 14, 2015 at 10:12am Reply

        • Victoria: Thank you very much! May 15, 2015 at 2:04am Reply

          • Bela: Sorry for the delay, Victoria. I’ve had a thorough rummage and can’t lay my hands on that article. It’s distressing me a little bit because I can’t imagine why I might have got rid of it – I never throw away that kind of thing. It’s gone. I’m sorry. 🙁

            All I can remember was that one of the judges was a famous wine expert, with a particularly keen nose. And that one of the other perfumes being assessed was Ombre Rose. May 24, 2015 at 10:35am Reply

    • Michaela: Beautiful story about Old Spice! :0 May 14, 2015 at 2:57am Reply

  • Lynn Morgan: Congrats, Victoria on being named to the WWD perfume panel! They could not have made a better choice.

    Highly amused, though by all the previous comments about the panel’s “objectivity”. It’s almost IMPOSSIBLE to be objective about a sensory experience, especially one as personal, idiosyncratic and closely linked to the reptile brain as scent. You can appreciate something intellectually without actually liking it, but the recommendation is always rather tepid- we’ve all seen the “interesting” movie that we forgot as soon as the house lights came up and we had no interest of seeing again on Netflix, or even the absolutely brilliant movie that was too disturbing to see again. I think Roman Polanski’s “The Pianist” was a tour de force of filmmaking, acting and storytelling, and one of most important films of this new century, but hell if I’d sit through it again! There is brilliantly conceived but virtually unwearable haute couture, jewelry that looks more like a museum installation than something to put on your body, and stunning architecture that I would not live in on a bet. (Does Zaha Hadid’s work strike you as especially welcoming?) But to really like something, it has to strike an emotional chord, and that is by definition, irrational, and highly subjective. Smell is the sense most closely linked to memory, the first to develop, and the last to fade, so it is our most primitive, most primal and most individual means of experiencing reality, and your experience of a scent has as much to do with your private memories and associations with it as the actual olfactory components. Many people, even most people, like the smell of roses, but if you connect the smell of roses with an unpleasant or sad memory, like a beloved relative’s funeral, you will not have a positive response to a rose fragrance, no matter how well-constructed or complex the layering. It will just smell like loss, death and sadness to you.

    Perfumers are creating fleeting impressions, dreams and fantasies, all of which are personal private and sometimes even unacknowledged. Maybe you wear Shalimar because in your head you are a 1920’s flapper dancing the night away in some louche speakeasy; maybe you wear Neroli Portofino because you like to imagine yourself on the deck of a big white yacht cruising the Mediterranean, even though you live on a Midwestern prairie. Maybe you wear a light, ingenuous fragrance because you like to think of yourself as energetic and girlish, even though you’re sixty years old. Maybe wearing Kelly Caleche makes you feel like a rich girl when you are unemployed. When you are shopping for a scent, you’re not actually shopping for a combination of woods and florals, you’re shopping for a mood you want to experience, a memory you want to re-live or a person you secretly want to be, and none of that is objective in the least! May 13, 2015 at 11:01pm Reply

    • Victoria: You can’t be perfectly objective about anything, not even a plate of fried eggs! But it doesn’t mean that art criticism is impossible. I don’t agree that the experience of perfume is so primitive and primal that one can’t criticize fragrances (altough this is precisely the argument perfume brands make to discourage honest discussions of their products). Also, by learning about something–Van Gogh’s life or the creation of Mitsouko, you can begin to enjoy it more. I never cared for rose perfumes until I started visiting the plantations, studying varietals and trying more rose fragrances. May 13, 2015 at 11:42pm Reply

    • The Scented Salon: I agree that perfume is more than just about the scent. A scent is to a perfume what silk is to a couture dress. For me, the bottle, presentation and back story is just slightly less important than the actual smell, sillage and longevity.

      I need a beautiful bottle, an intriguing story, a rich history and an association with some other aspect of life for a perfume to really transform me. That is why I stay away from Demeter fragrances: it is just about the smell. That is precisely why Guerlain is one of my favorite brands: they have it all.

      The reason I love perfume is because it does create a story in the mind and even a ephemeral world that one inhabits with the wearing of a perfume, as Lynn so aptly described. May 14, 2015 at 12:56pm Reply

      • Victoria: For me it is only about scent, I suppose. Reducing perfume to a mere component runs counter to everything I find fascinating about it. But a nice scent is not the same as nice perfume, to say nothing of genius perfume. On the other hand, I don’t discriminate. Demeter Wet Garden is a fun perfume, a snapshot. Guerlain Apres L’Ondee is a masterpiece. Both have their place in my wardrobe.

        As for stories…. If the scent says nothing to you, then no amount of back stories will make it appealing. If there is no substance to perfume, the rest doesn’t matter. May 14, 2015 at 1:18pm Reply

  • Courant: Victoria, you are so self deprecating most people who follow this blog have no idea how accomplished you are. From the Makeup Alley days where TS found her spring board, to this latest think tank, I see you executing world domination by 2020. We need a benevolent dictator! But don’t tell your husband I said that. That wouldn’t be diplomatic. May 14, 2015 at 2:23am Reply

    • Victoria: Thank you. 🙂 Your comment made me smile. May 15, 2015 at 2:00am Reply

  • Connie: That’s an exciting initiative! I hope you’ll tell us more about it as it develops. I’m impressed with WWD for going for it. May 14, 2015 at 6:34am Reply

    • Victoria: I still can’t believe they did! It’s really brave, and if they can continue it, gamechanging. May 15, 2015 at 2:01am Reply

  • Figuier: Love the concept! I’ve never read/bought this magazine, but might look it out now…

    & what a great panel! – it should make for some really thoughtful responses.

    Misia, though…well, basically any serious appraisal was let down by my sensitivity to powder – I found it unutterably cloying. I only tested on paper admittedly, but even that bothered me so much that I had to chuck the strip before boarding my plane.

    I admire both Lipstick Rose and Paris; this lacked their brightness. Oh well, can’t win ’em all 😉 May 14, 2015 at 12:57pm Reply

    • Victoria: The responses have been a range: some thoughtful, some quirky. I look forward to the next issue.

      Misia is sweet and powdery. My husband said that it reminded him of violet bonbons. May 15, 2015 at 2:12am Reply

  • orsetta: i am a bit late to the party but i also want to say: congratulations! and it’s good to know the future assessments will benefit from your knowledgeable and balanced attitude 🙂 (and having looked at some of the previous comments about the panelists, i’d rather say: ‘wow! what a panel! Victoria and Michael Edwards! ;-)’ – i’m very much in awe of his work 🙂

    of course it’s not possible to be truly objective scents (and indeed anything) – especially that even more measurable and less intangible fields are not truly objective either – even sciences change their methods and methodologies and, as a result, sth which had been seen as ‘true’ is ‘not the same in the next prevailing theory 😀

    but this does not take away anything from the pleasure of talking about and, indeed, evaluating perfume, so i’m planning to enjoy the next installments of your blind-tests (and BTW – i liked Misia for the scent itself but even more for the origin of its name). May 15, 2015 at 6:20am Reply

    • Victoria: My scientist friends would be the first ones to disagree with science as the ideal type of objectivity. So I’m with you, and I like how you put it.

      Thank you! It’s a great company to be in. Chantal Roos is also a legend in the industry, and I admire her work as a creative director on some of the most memorable launches. I mean, she is a force behind Yves Saint Laurent Opium. May 15, 2015 at 10:30am Reply

      • Cornelia Blimber: Of course objectivity is impossible, but it is laudable (and necessary) to strive for it. May 15, 2015 at 11:45am Reply

        • Cornelia Blimber: If she created the current version of Opium, please thank her very much in my name! May 15, 2015 at 11:47am Reply

          • Victoria: She worked on the original. May 18, 2015 at 2:07am Reply

            • Cornelia Blimber: She doubtless did a great job, then. But I can’t help it..I love the reformulated Opium better. more transparant, more radiant. The old one was too dense to my nose. May 18, 2015 at 3:00am Reply

              • Victoria: I admire the original, but the new one is more to my tastes. Just wish the regulations weren’t so stringent as to force the change. May 19, 2015 at 12:12pm Reply

        • Victoria: I completely agree! May 18, 2015 at 2:06am Reply

      • orsetta: many thanks for the info about Opium, Victoria – i have now googled Mme Roos and it’s fascinating to see that she helped create the image of so many wonderful classics, especially from the golden years of YSL – Paris, Kouros, Jazz… .

        plus, now it’s now even clearer to me that the level of objectivity is further enhanced by the diverse backgrounds of the panelists – great! 🙂 May 15, 2015 at 1:43pm Reply

        • Victoria: Her portfolio is beyond impressive. Paris and Opium alone are among the perfume legends today, not to mention Kouros. May 18, 2015 at 2:08am Reply

  • Amer: Interesting initiative and your ink portrait is very nice too. All the best for you and the esteemed team!

    Misia includes pansy as a note? Wow, I love the scent of pansies (and petunias) and didn’t know it existed as a perfume note. Got to try it! May 18, 2015 at 1:50am Reply

    • Victoria: Thank you, Amer!
      I don’t think that pansy is there. It’s more of a violet-rose accord. May 18, 2015 at 2:03am Reply

      • Amer: I wonder why pansies and petunias never get translated into perfume. They both posses such a beautiful musky scent (at least the varieties I have in mind). Is it that difficult to be recreated? May 18, 2015 at 8:20am Reply

        • Victoria: I don’t think so. Perhaps, they’re used an inspiration in an accord. I will have to check. May 19, 2015 at 12:14pm Reply

  • Henrique Brito: I confess that i was happy to see your name listed Victoria when i read that post 🙂 Hope you always participate on this panel! May 29, 2015 at 1:12pm Reply

    • Victoria: Thank you so much, Henrique! 🙂 May 31, 2015 at 11:43am Reply

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